Automatic offers and outreach the paynless way using BatchLeads agent lists

How to comp a deal & then sell it to a cash buyer- Investor Thrive Live

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what is up batchley’s Nation I’m here
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today with Brad Mortensen what’s going
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on Brad hey it’s good good to be here
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always a pleasure so it for you if this
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is uh the the weekly call that I do and
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showing people how to get deals using
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batch now why did I got Brad on here
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today well Brad’s awesome but he also
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has an awesome product he’s got that
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he’s got What’s called the auto MLS this
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thing is amazing it literally goes hand
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in hand with what my philosophy of how I
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pre-wholesale how I get deals
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um and work with people without even
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having to get under contract and uh you
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know he’s gonna go over today and show
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you exactly how he set up my account how
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he helped me and within just sending out
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a couple I think we just sent out maybe
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a couple text messages on it I already
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have a deal I already went and saw it I
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already sent my buyers through and I’m
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making the final offer to the agent of
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the pocket listing today and you know if
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it gets accepted we’re looking at you
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know 15 10 to 15 000 wholesale fee in
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three hours so if you’re okay with
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making three you know ten to fifteen
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thousand dollars in three hours of work
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then you’re definitely Gonna Wanna check
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this out today so stay tuned if you want
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to know how to automate your business
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he’s he’s figured it out for you and it
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goes hand in hand with the pain this
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whole same method so let’s Dive Right In
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Brad you kind of want to show them how
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we use batch leads to get the agent list
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how we plug it into your system and how
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you’re helping people get deals
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painlessly yep for sure thanks for the
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intro yeah so there’s uh there’s two
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primary uh funnels that we use let me go
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ahead and I’m going to share my screens
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that’s cool
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and let’s go right there all right okay
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so there’s two primary funnels that we
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have we have our uh agent Outreach that
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I’ll go over and we have our MLS offers
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funnel so these are going to be active
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listings that you want to create an
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automated contract to go out or an offer
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to go out to those agents
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and we pull both of those lists from
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propstroom now which is super nice we’re
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able to get into batch grab the not only
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the active listings but then hungry
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agents and so uh once we have those two
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we can automate our Outreach to them
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uh so the first thing that we do is uh
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is our property we’re going to look at
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our active listings so we’ll go to our
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property search
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and we can type in just any
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any area so if I wanted to do
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Chandler if you want to do like a county
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you could do a county so this is Pinal
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County Arizona
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uh when people sign up with us we give
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them like I think are you sharing your
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auto MLS screen are you sharing batch
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lead screen
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I would only share the same the one tab
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hold on just a second share this tap
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instead I gotta click that button all
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right now are you good yeah we’re good
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all right yep I gotta know to click that
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button
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so in property so you go to your
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property search here in batch you put in
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the area that you want to go to
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and we give these lists out like as our
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onboarding training like hey here’s the
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top four that we recommend and obviously
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you can add your own buy box or your
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buyers buy box to this criteria but say
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I just wanted single families
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um that are built before 2000
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and we want active property so on the
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market is yes
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status is active and then I’m going to
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do 30 days on Market your area could be
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different
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and then also you want to put in kind of
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a valuation like if you want to stay
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between a certain dollar amount like if
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you know your buyers aren’t buying above
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500 000 uh then you put something like
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that in once you apply that you should
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get a list so now I’ve got 104
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properties that meet this criteria all I
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do is Select and add those to a list and
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then export it to our system
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once you bring it over to our system
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this is kind of an internal look at what
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what it looks like I got to share this
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tab right so you come over to
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your auto MLS account
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and you’ll import the properties as soon
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as you drag and drop that file that we
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just got from batch and like you know
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less than 30 seconds
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it’s going to calculate an offer for you
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based on a formula that you give it and
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you can change that formula anytime that
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you want but it’s going to create an
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automated contract and the contract is
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in a letter of intent so it’s an offer
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in form of a letter of intent that looks
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like this it’ll have your company logo
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you can customize how this looks any any
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of that information that you want on
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there
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um and then it’ll you know put your your
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system email and system phone number in
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the bottom of it so again this is huge
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it attaches it to an email and sends it
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to that listing agent on autopilot so as
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soon as I upload that list it’s going to
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calculate the offer and then what we do
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is set it in drip mode so that I have a
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hundred properties that I just pulled
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I’ll drip on those maybe 10 a day to
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send them an offer with a you know with
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that this letter ATT attached and then
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follow that follow up with a text
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message saying hey did you get the offer
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right just how we communicate normally
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with agents
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the point of that is to engage with the
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agent right so I’m sending like to get
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their their response and you know you’ll
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the low hanging fruit again is them
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except actually accepting the offer or
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countering back
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um but the gold mine of it is building
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that relationship so picking up the
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phone talking to them and saying hey I
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know this one came through low but do
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you have any other properties that you
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know I could get you an offer on that
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might not be on the market yet
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um which kind of leads into the agent
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Outreach side
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um so that was our property list those
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are active listings but now batch has
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added this agent Outreach component
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right down here
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and what we want to do here is go to our
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city so say I want to do Chandler
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I’m going to open up these filters right
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here and I want active agents that are
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hungry
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uh did I not share this tab yet sorry
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let me go back I gotta keep remembering
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do that oh I think it’s easier when you
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share your screen if you share your
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whole screen uh then you don’t have to
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switch back and forth if you go if you
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go to present it doesn’t matter if you
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if you don’t want to do it but if you go
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to present your whole screen it does the
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whole thing got it okay so in batch
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under agent Outreach there’s this new
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agent Outreach portion right here you’ll
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click on that in the search you’ll put
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in the city that you want and then click
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this little filters button to the right
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and we want hungry agents so we don’t
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want like top performing team members
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for the most part right because we want
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agents that are willing to work and and
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kind of but they’re at least active so
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you want people that have sold at least
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a couple listings in the last 12 months
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so I would put that filter in there
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and then the sold price I would do a a
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Max of problem depending on your market
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like four to five million
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uh just to grab agents that are are
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going to be hungry responsive they’re
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not too busy to talk to you and then
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you’re going to hit search and this is
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going to pull up so I got 676 agents
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that fit that criteria in Chandler
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and I’ve got their phone number and
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their email what broker they’re at all
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that
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I’m going to take this list go over back
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over to Auto Import it
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and we have a new agent Outreach
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campaign that does 10 contact attempts
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so I would grab this entire list that I
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imported
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add them to a workflow
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just like this
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and we have this new agent Outreach uh
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workflow that you just have to set it
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and forget it
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we we recommend adding it in drip mode
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just to keep consistent we talked about
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this on a previous call but if you are
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if you sent all all 600 of these at once
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you’re going to be overwhelmed with
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responses and you’re going to be too
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busy to give them the attention that
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they want uh if they have a property
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that that comes up so this is the the
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what you know Nate had just done
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yesterday he he sent out 10 of these and
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like the second agent responded and said
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hey I do have one coming up like in this
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uh in the next couple days are you able
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to take a look at it and that’s the one
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he’s working on right now but if he had
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sent out 600 of these and he has to
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respond to you know a higher there’s a
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high response rate from these agents uh
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you’re going to be too overwhelmed to do
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that so we recommend doing it in like 10
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to 20 a day so you just say hey repeat
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10 batches every you know every day
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Monday through Saturday whatever and at
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I’m going to send that out at 9 30 in
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the morning
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uh and what it’s going to do it’s going
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to try and contact them 10 times so we
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already have this built in where you
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have a text message like asking them hey
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I got your number online are you still
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an agent or hey I was referred to you
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online do you are you still agent in
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Chandler right so you have like a
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control over what that initial message
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is and if they don’t respond it goes
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through sending them an email following
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up with another text over the next 30
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days they get 10 attempts to respond
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back to you and if they do then our
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system is going to listen for that
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they’re going to listen for uh positive
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intent
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um basically did they did they say yes I
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am an agent or yes I have a deal and
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then follow a few more questions but
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then hand it off to you as the
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wholesaler to take over and say all
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right like actually pick up the phone
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talk to them build a relationship and
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that’s what’s going to set you kind of
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apart from everybody else is actually
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being willing to talk to those agents
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um but that’s all done on autopilot So
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within five minutes I can grab a list
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from my city set it and forget it and
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then it’s going to make me work every
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single day it’s going to send 10 offers
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it’s going to send 10 new age and
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Outreach Camp you know add them to that
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campaign so that it’s constantly making
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me reach out to agents um which is the
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Cadence that you know we go through as
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wholesalers a lot of us you don’t have
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that consistency it’s kind of more like
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this we work and then we we get paid and
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then we stop and we work and we get paid
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right so it kind of goes up and down but
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this helps keep you consistent versus
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sending everything out at once and then
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trying to trying to work through you
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know 60 hour week right so that’s it
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that’s in a nutshell I didn’t want to go
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too much uh I could do like demos for
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anybody that wants to jump on it but uh
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to go in more depth but that’s in a
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nutshell kind of what we do well you
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know what I love about it is uh
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everybody that’s listening um or will
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watch this like I’m actually I’m doing
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this right so so I sent this out
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um and I had an agent reach out that you
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can kind of tell she’s probably never
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really worked with investors right but
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uh kind of like exactly the type of
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people we’re searching for you know that
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do a couple deals and you know we can
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build those relationships with so I
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reached out to her and had a good phone
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call with her and you know if you guys
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are interested in watching that phone
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call I’ll put on my YouTube channel
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um or Nathan Payne if you just look it
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up but uh you know I talked to her and
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you know I found out that she was open
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to uh a cash offer and you know taking
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both sides of the commission so she
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could you know be incentivized and she
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can get paid a little bit more to
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represent me uh if you don’t know what
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that means uh we you know that maybe
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another time we can talk about that but
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uh you know so I I talked to her I went
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I don’t even I don’t even have a house
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under contract I sent one of my buyers
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there they gave me an offer at 3 30
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she uh she wanted 350. the agent
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originally said hey we’re looking for
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350. that’s probably going to list it
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for so one of my buyers went there again
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don’t have it under contract but I I
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know how to navigate these situations so
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they made the offer 330. I went
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yesterday to look at it just check it
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out meet the agent I had another buyer
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come and he made me offer at 325 ready
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to go in seven days close ASAP so right
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now I need to call this agent and
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basically say hey look I totally
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understand you know 350 was the goal uh
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the house needs a lot more work blah
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blah blah blah all the the points and I
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also like to when I talk to agents and
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make offers I like to not just talk but
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I like to show right so right now I’m
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going to show you guys is the numbers of
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how I came up with
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um what I’m going to send her okay so I
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call this
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um the painless offer calculator this
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thing not only tells you flips it tells
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it shows uh a net breakdown spreadsheet
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on to seller is what their cash offer
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would net them what if they flipped it
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themselves would have net them if you
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know I do Innovation it goes through all
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their options so they know exactly what
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they’re going to get depending on what’s
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what offer they take it helps you do a
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wholesale analysis Novation Burr uh one
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person like rentals creative calculator
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because I like to look at all my options
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I’m not just a one-trick pony that’s
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like hey let me just low ball everybody
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I I gotta know what options but this is
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because I talk to her they’re not
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willing to like carry a note um they
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just want cash they want it quick or
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they’re going to list it so now it’s
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like okay I gotta make a cash offer this
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is a wholesale deal right so
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um let me break down how we’re going to
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run our numbers and so everyone can see
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exactly how my buyers came up their
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numbers and how I’m coming with my
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numbers
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um
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find out the AR via this property I just
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knew it was slightly discounted that’s
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why I sent my buyers through my buyer
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calls me and he says hey Nate I just
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looked at it and it looks like the arv
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of this thing is 445. if we fix it up
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and I was like okay and the agent
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originally wanted 350. now what the
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seller
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um sorry what my buyer told me said look
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my rehab cost Nate it’s going to be 70k
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it’s this house needs to kind of work I
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was like okay wow 70k so you just put
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your rehab and I said I said how long is
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it going to take you to sell this like
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fix this thing and sell it he’s like
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it’s going to take me six months I get
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hard money at 12 and 2 points and um
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it’s gonna take about six months he’s an
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agent so he’s not going to have to pay a
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commission to list it he’s just gonna
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have to pay a commission for a buyer to
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come through and here are your closing
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costs so according to his numbers at 350
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and that’s not without me making
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anything
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he would lose twenty thousand dollars
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that’s his net profit is negative 20. so
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350 is not a deal of these numbers for
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any any flipper right so they’re not
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going to be able to sell this
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um so if we even if we dropped it down
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he’s like he’s a really good flipper and
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he got like the cheapest prices even at
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40K the guy’s only making
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9828 bucks that’s not worth spending 70
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grand six months to make nine thousand
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right so 350 it’s not a deal okay so he
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came to me and said look
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um Nate I can do it the best where I
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feel good about it is 325.
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look even with the numbers he gave me
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he’s making six thousand bucks and he
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told me he’s like look man I know I’m
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not making a killing but I have like
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three crews and I got to keep them busy
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or they’re gonna find work somewhere
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else so this is probably one of the best
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buyers you’re gonna find that isn’t
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necessarily trying to make a ton of
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money now if I send this to her and I
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say hey look the arv is really 445 325
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IS if I buy it I’m only making six
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thousand dollars she’s probably gonna
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feel sorry for me right because that’s
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not a good amount but I need you know
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it’s it’s very possible that honestly I
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don’t know why he would do this deal
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looking at the numbers maybe maybe his
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hard money is 10 on this one and but
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even if you’ve changed the numbers a
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little bit on like hard money and
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holding time it’s just not the best deal
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um you know even at fifty thousand
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you’re still at a negative oh not
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negative you’re at six percent on your
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flipping like most flippers want to be
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between 10 and 20
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so
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this is an amazing offer in my opinion
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when it comes down to the numbers at
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325. now if I want to get paid as a
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wholesaler or if I want to get paid
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through an invoice or whatever I’m gonna
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have to get it lower to include my fee
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so if I go to her and I say hey 315 Fina
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is the best we can do and I give it to
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him at 325 because he said he’s cool
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with it
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um I made 10K and he makes you know
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honestly barely anything
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and maybe I maybe I need to talk to him
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again well Brad I don’t know it’s kind
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of weird I’m looking at the numbers and
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it doesn’t make sense but he’s willing
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to do it so I guess you just just let
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him do it let him do it either he sees
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him or he’s got something that’s not uh
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uh like your
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arv you know that the biggest things are
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going to be arv in your your uh the
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rehab yeah rehab right so if those are
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slightly higher for him or if he thinks
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he sees something else or more potential
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out of it that could be it you know
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doing a flipper I did a lot of I
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wouldn’t do a I wouldn’t do a 70 000
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remodel for seventeen thousand yeah that
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wouldn’t fit my my buy box and I bought
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a lot of properties in Phoenix yeah
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where I’d make six thousand but it had
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to be like a carpet clean like that’s it
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like it’s a quick
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turn like retail like what do they call
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it hoteling right that’s yeah I would do
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that not for 70 000 rehab in this and he
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told me again he’s like I got to keep my
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Crews busy and maybe you know he’s he
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probably has to do a lot of volume now I
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got to offer 325 and the other one at 3
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30. and for me they have to win too I’m
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not going to be able to keep a good
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relationship with a buyer if I’m giving
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them deals and I’ll even say hey man I
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ran the numbers I don’t know if they’re
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you sure yeah before I make this off see
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what you’re missing there but yeah no I
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I agree with you there’s something that
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it seems a little off there but but if I
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send this to her and say hey look I need
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to be at 3 15 because the rehab 70 and
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what I actually do Brad and for
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everybody watching is I actually just
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take a screenshot of of the numbers and
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I give this the agent a call and I I
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walk them through this and sometimes I
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even do it over like a Google call like
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we’re doing right now or like a virtual
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but I’ll just call her and this really
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helps everyone to explain because a lot
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of times they that all they see the
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numbers the agents or seller see is 445
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is what they think it’s worth or want
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and 315 and they think you’re just being
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unreasonable and selfish but if you’re
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like hey this is all that goes into
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getting this done to for me to make 17K
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that’s why I need to be and honestly I
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probably should be lower but I can get
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it done then they’re like they
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understand and that’s the thing
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educating the seller educating the agent
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is very important in my opinion it
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doesn’t always get the deal done but
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it’s better in my opinion than just
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making an offer at 3 15 and just saying
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hey does that work right or is that does
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that make sense you know and just hoping
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that they they run the math in their own
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head so that’s what I’m going to do
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everyone I’m going to take these numbers
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before I send this to her I’m going to
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kind of verify my own arv he said it’s
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445 it might be a little bit higher and
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he might just be being you know
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conservative
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um but he also did
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send me
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um some comps which is kind of cool so
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let’s see if we can look at those comps
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really quick let’s see
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all right so this one sold for 340
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um in April
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uh sorry so okay listed for 325 sold for
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340 and it’s kind of a similar home ours
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is a 3-2 I know this one was a three two
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so this is sold for 340. okay and and
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that means you know commissions fees
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they probably right around like 325 is
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what they got that was on this home a
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similar home let’s see this one so this
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is a split and this is he said this is
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also kind of a a comp in the sense but
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this is this is really far back you know
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um 7 25 22 2022
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um and it sold for 293 so that really
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makes the like the offer look good after
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that one but I don’t think an agent
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would look at that and be like yeah I
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agree with you yeah it’s probably gonna
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just be this one
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and uh
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this selling at 340 on the MLS uh let’s
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see how long it took
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3 20
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. so it took about a month so it really
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didn’t take that long either to get it
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done so
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maybe
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um the RV might be a little bit higher
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but we’re gonna find that out anyway
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Brad I want to show you kind of how I
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use that and run the numbers and when I
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make the offers of the agent I kind of
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try to justify it a little bit because
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they understand we got to make money too
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and uh you know cross your fingers
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brother let’s see if we can get this
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deal done let’s do this first one not
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that first uh first round that’d be
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great
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um I think what you’re doing is huge
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though because a lot of wholesalers will
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miss that of building the credibility
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that taking that extra step of even that
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like a screenshot of like hey this is
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how I analyze like I actually spent time
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analyzed your property addresses right
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here at the top you know whatever it is
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but they they see that come through and
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yeah maybe it doesn’t get accepted but
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for them to be able to come back to you
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with future pocket listings it just adds
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that extra you know pillar of like
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feeling strong about that connection
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whatever uh that you build with them so
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I think that’s huge a lot of people miss
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that they’re just sending them they’re
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sending the offer over and they don’t
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educate the agent uh or wholesaler
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whoever you’re sending it to
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in educating people it does help build a
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relationship it’s not like hey I’m
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coming to you from like I’m a genius or
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I’m better than you it’s more like hey
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let’s understand this together and then
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you can have an educated conversation
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where they’re like hey you got the
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interview at 4 45. it’s really 480. then
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it’s like oh okay well then let’s talk
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about it where did you see that okay I
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agree with you and you can have a better
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relationship that way but anyway for
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everyone that’s watching hope you got a
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lot of value out of this Auto MLS is is
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awesome use the link that I have in the
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description if you want to check it out
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or just tell um when you get on the call
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that Nathan Payne um sent you and uh
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yeah like that’s that’s the system I’m
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using literally going to batch pulling
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the list and going pulling the agent
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list and also making offers and and
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talking to people you know it’s it’s
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working and it’s uh it’s painless you
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know
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love it all right everybody we’re out
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like if you need anything you know where
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to reach us catch you later